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A Seven Card Stud Tournament in Monaco
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12:42 pm
June 13, 2008


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After a successful run online in 2007, you have won a seat at the 2008 European Poker Tour Seven Card Stud Event in Monaco. Winning this event will net you $500,000!

Fast forward…there are 125 participants who started this EPT event and it has been dwindled down to 24, all in the money.

You are sitting 16th with 75,000 chips, the leader has 250,000 chips, who is at your table. The limits are at $3,000-$6,000, with a $500 ante. You are dealt pocket Queens down, with a King on top. Only two other players are in the hand, one with a Ace showing, the other with a Seven. The player with the Ace bets out $4,000. The player with the Seven raises it to $8,000. It is now your turn to act.

How would you play this particular hand?
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2:22 pm
June 13, 2008


MNFulltilt

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I would need have to know how the other players were playing to make a proper vote. Were the other players tight or loose. You could very well have the worst hand to start, but so much can happen in stud as the cards are played down. Without more info, I would vote to fold and wait for a better situation to come.

2:30 pm
June 13, 2008


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So are you saying, if both are loose, you are calling, but if both are tight, you are folding?

3:54 pm
June 13, 2008


MNFulltilt

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Two loose players I may call, but would be worried about the reraiser. The other problem with calling is the chance of a raise & reraise again behind you.

The other thing you could do is reraise and try and get it to heads up to increase you chances. The good thing is you are already in the money, so at least you have won some money.

4:24 pm
June 13, 2008


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So really, you are folding in either case. :-)

9:12 am
June 15, 2008


ffcowboy76

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I chose to call. There are a multitude of reasons I picked to call, but the biggest is by the nature of the game of stud. Stud is by nature a bit of a chasing game. Until you hit 5th St no one has a hand.

Now, a bit on what I think the 2 other players are playing. The first raiser is probably unpaired and has 2 or 3 to the straight. The re-raiser has either a hidden pair like we do or a rolled set. One piece of information that wasn’t mentioned, but is important, is the door cards of the other players that folded. Did any of them have a Q showing, how about J, T, K, A? The door cards are the first piece of free information you get and you need to use it.

I’m going to attempt to illustrate my point, but I will blog on this more soon. If you hold 9, T, J and you see 2 K’s, an 8, a Q, and a 7 in the door cards of the table you probably won’t make a straight. You might want to consider folding this hand preflop.

Like I said earlier, I would call and see at least 4th St. If I catch a Q, I’m most likely in the lead and I’m racing the re-raiser to a full house.

1:44 pm
June 16, 2008


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Great post, ff. I like your analysis of the other players up cards, which I didn’t give. I think that makes a huge difference in this hand, and I forgot about it.

1:31 pm
June 20, 2008


JMIN

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I agree with cowboy, but would raise in this spot to thin the field. If both call proceed with caution (up cards were very important). I would check raise the turn if card does not help other player. If you are re raised on the flop I would just call and know you have to improve depending on the players history and your fold equity.



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